Conservative Conservation

Article view by Marc Aupiais

In the wild, how one would survive best: is to use what one needs to use only when it is necessary.

To destroy something you need for something other perhaps in the future: should only be done if it is the only way to achieve a needed end. To take the energy to carry an important thing is necessary, but sometimes it is needed to travel as light as possible, if the testimony of the Bushmen is a true one.

In the environment, we need to move away from activist language and into reality. The fact that almost everything the Green movement has claimed is a lie: from an ice age in Europe, to the end of the Himalayas Ice: makes their claims that science is to be a basis ridiculous. Their 'science' is nothing but lies.

That said, true science and wise use of resources: choosing simpler ways to do things etc could save us all.

Most of saving the environment without costing lives and economies is by simple solutions. Often lost.

Insulation, green roof-tops, roof and house paint, solar powered water, heat pumps, not so full kettles, etc.

A jersey or jacket instead of air-conditioning. A blanket over the window instead of both.

Sound advice: the gospel of using natural solutions: this is how we can save our planet. Efficiency! Professionalism, curatorship of our lives.

The use of a motor-vehicle powerful enough for our needs. Our everyday needs.

The world was not always reliant on much coal, oil, and electricity. Simpler, older solutions can be the answer.

A global effort at combating climate changes, can only happen on the basis of truth. I truly pray with all my heart that proven frauds such as the UN panel on climate change and Al Gore, are openly known for their lies. That those who hijacked environmentalism for their own selfish agendas are stopped.

But I do more than that: I tell the truth about the environment, because that is the only way to combat climate changes: sound solutions to Eco-problems: in a way sustainable in a real world economy.

Myths, and all out lies have no strength! But truth and openness to lower and simpler solutions acceptable to the existing marketplace will save us from any partly possible climate changes being an issue!

Finally Kindle on the Blackberry Tablet: the so-called Playbook (nothing dodgy meant by that)

Article note by Marc Aupiais

It may seem just a plaything, though some consider it their playmate, the Blackberry Playbook however came minus one functionality my every other device had: a proprietary Kindle Book reading application.

Cloud Reader, for Ipad just wouldn't display or open books. Today, when I tried for the umpteenth time, I changed the orientation and true to form, it seems that the system was tricked. It has even opened a novel, although perhaps the entire system was updated.

Kindle for Blackberry Playbook with a work around, at least cloud reader, which given I always have internet over tethering or wi-fi: is good enough for now.

Pictures: copyright Marc Aupiais!

Not Carbon Based Global Warming After All- Nasa Satellite DATA Study

Article by Marc Aupiais

Forbes reports (And please note, additional research by our service shows they chose to publish it under their online blogs section)
New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism 27 / 28 July 2011
James Taylor
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html

The study, by the University of Alabama, based on Satellite Data claims that "Global Warming" caused by carbon trapping heat in the atmosphere is so minimal as to be negligible. The research, if noted by Carbon model proponents is sure to be hotly disputed.

As I reported recently, the Daily Mail, reported on a press release by the University of East Anglia, saying that most of the temperature DATA used to correlate with carbon levels in the polar ice, on which global warming claims are based, was destroyed by scientists in the 1980s, British media also reported on great inaccuracies in climate change claims involving the Himalayas, and other regions. The Daily Mail, and other media also recently reported that Earth is set to enter a mini-ice age, due to a temporary lack of Sun Spots (a phenomena discovered by Galileo centuries ago, which then lead to a 2 degrees centigrade reduction in temperatures). Media claiming climate science was in peril include: Daily Mail, the Times and Sunday Times, and the Telegraph in Britain, the first and last still claiming global warming as real.

c.f. January 24, 2010
UN wrongly linked global warming to natural disasters

Sunday Times

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7000063.ece

November 29, 2009

Climate change data dumped

Jonathan Leake, Environment Editor

"SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based."

Sunday Times

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece

Eminent geophysicist rejects global warming theory, says world on verge of ‘mini ice age’

BY MATTHEW CULLINAN HOFFMAN

LifeSiteNews

Fri Feb 18, 2011 22:48 EST

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/eminent-geophysicist-rejects-global-warming-theory-says-world-on-verge-of-m?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=Feed:+LifesitenewscomLatestHeadlines+(LifeSiteNews.com+Latest+Headlines)&utm_content=FaceBook

Blow to ‘global warming’ - Study: many Himalayan glaciers are growing or stable

BY MATTHEW CULLINAN HOFFMAN

LifeSiteNews

Mon Feb 07, 2011 19:48 EST

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/another-blow-to-global-warming-many-himalayan-glaciers-are-growing-or-stabl

Climate change not linked to African wars

Quirin Schiermeier

Nature Magazine

Published online 6 September 2010 | Nature | doi:10.1038/news.2010.451

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100906/full/news.2010.451.html

Climate change scandal deepens as BBC expert claims he was sent leaked emails six weeks ago

By CAROL DRIVER

Last updated at 11:36 AM on 26th November 2009

Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230943/Climate-change-scandal-BBC-expert-sent-cover-emails-month-public.html#ixzz1TQ3X0zHF

John Beddington: chief scientist says climate change sceptics 'should not be dismissed'

The Telegraph; Andrew Hough7:30AM GMT 27 Jan 2010

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7081039/John-Beddington-chief-scientist-says-climate-change-sceptics-should-not-be-dismissed.html

Ian McEwan says Americans are 'profoundly bored' by climate change

The Telegraph; By Anita Singh, Showbusiness Editor8:00AM BST 17 Jul 2010

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7895747/Ian-McEwan-says-Americans-are-profoundly-bored-by-climate-change.html

The most recent discovery, that the computer models were wrong, would not surprise the  columnists of these papers, which have for years cited the completely inaccurate short and medium term climate forecasts of the British weather servide, since climate change variables were introduced.

The alternate view of climate change is that it is constant and consistent, and more recently caused by soil changes, urbanization and astronomical phenomena such as sun spots etc.

University of Alabama, USA has released the following statement to the Press, July 26th 2011, according to a source cited by the Yahoo News article (Forbes hosted on Yahoo)

"Climate models get energy balance wrong, make too hot forecasts of global warming

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (July 26, 2011) — Data from NASA’s Terra satellite shows that when the climate warms, Earth’s atmosphere is apparently more efficient at releasing energy to space than models used to forecast climate change have been programmed to “believe.”

The result is climate forecasts that are warming substantially faster than the atmosphere, says Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist in the Earth System Science Center at The University of Alabama in Huntsville.

The previously unexplained differences between model-based forecasts of rapid global warming and meteorological data showing a slower rate of warming have been the source of often contentious debate and controversy for more than two decades.

In research published this week in the journal “Remote Sensing” http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/8/1603/pdf, Spencer and UA Huntsville’s Dr. Danny Braswell compared what a half dozen climate models say the atmosphere should do to satellite data showing what the atmosphere actually did during the 18 months before and after warming events between 2000 and 2011.

“The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show,” Spencer said. “There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans.”

Not only does the atmosphere release more energy than previously thought, it starts releasing it earlier in a warming cycle. The models forecast that the climate should continue to absorb solar energy until a warming event peaks. Instead, the satellite data shows the climate system starting to shed energy more than three months before the typical warming event reaches its peak.

“At the peak, satellites show energy being lost while climate models show energy still being gained,” Spencer said.

This is the first time scientists have looked at radiative balances during the months before and after these transient temperature peaks.

Applied to long-term climate change, the research might indicate that the climate is less sensitive to warming due to increased carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere than climate modelers have theorized. A major underpinning of global warming theory is that the slight warming caused by enhanced greenhouse gases should change cloud cover in ways that cause additional warming, which would be a positive feedback cycle.

Instead, the natural ebb and flow of clouds, solar radiation, heat rising from the oceans and a myriad of other factors added to the different time lags in which they impact the atmosphere might make it impossible to isolate or accurately identify which piece of Earth’s changing climate is feedback from manmade greenhouse gases.

“There are simply too many variables to reliably gauge the right number for that,” Spencer said. “The main finding from this research is that there is no solution to the problem of measuring atmospheric feedback, due mostly to our inability to distinguish between radiative forcing and radiative feedback in our observations.”

For this experiment, the UA Huntsville team used surface temperature data gathered by the Hadley Climate Research Unit in Great Britain. The radiant energy data was collected by the Clouds and Earth’s Radiant Energy System (CERES) instruments aboard NASA’s Terra satellite.

The six climate models were chosen from those used by the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The UA Huntsville team used the three models programmed using the greatest sensitivity to radiative forcing and the three that programmed in the least sensitivity."

July 26 University of Alabama

South Africa to bail out failed dictatorship to tune of 10 billion without democratic reforms, amid crackdowns on decent?

Article by Marc Aupiais
One need not repeat the headline, what the SACBC Cardinal Wilfred Napier has asked is that South Africa demand Swaziland reforms before granting the bail out to the mismanaged land!



"Pretoria
24 June 2011
For Immediate release.
Statement by Cardinal Wilfrid Napier, Spokesman of the Southern African Catholic Bishops' Conference (SACBC).
 The Catholic Bishops of Southern Africa wish to register their concern at the financial bailout by the South African Treasury of the Government of the Kingdom of Swaziland.
It is understood that an amount of R10 Billion is needed to keep the Swazi Government afloat and the administration from collapsing.

 Swaziland is currently in the throes of an unprecedented financial and societal crisis.  It has
• the highest HIV & AIDS infection rate in the world (26%);• the lowest life expectancy in the world (32 years);• an unemployment rate of 40% and rising;• and extreme poverty with 70% of its population living below the poverty line of less than US$6  a day.• A State of emergency that has curtailed freedom of expression, association and dissent for the last 37 years.
We believe that the Swaziland Government must abandon or at least reform the "Tinkhundla" system of governance of royal favour and alliance which is a breeding place for corruption and greed.  Monies intended for alleviating the people's suffering are diverted to support the lavish lifestyle of the monarchy.
The People of Swaziland love their King and Country, but the conditions that have created this crisis must not be disregarded by South Africa in considering a bailout.

We therefore call on the South African Government to make the loan CONDITIONAL on the following:
∙         the recognition and implementation the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in Swaziland;∙         the revocation by King Mswati III of the royal decree of 12 April 1973 which established a state of emergency;∙         that King Mswati III enter into meaningful dialogue with his people in order to facilitate movement  towards true democracy his country;∙         the establishment of a democratic process for writing a new constitution in which all Swazi's have a part;∙         that the current Swazi Constitution be amended to reinstate the full range of human rights;∙         And that none of the bailout money go directly or indirectly to fund the Monarchy.
In the same way that the South African Government has laudable process examining the sale of Arms to other countries, the same type of process should be employed when it comes to financial support for ailing regional economies.


Cardinal Wilfrid Napier
Archbishop of Durban
Spokesman for the Southern African Catholic Bishops' Conference
(The SACBC is constituted by the Catholic Bishops of Botswana, Swaziland and South Africa)
"
That quoted, South Africa sold arms to Libya, North Korea, just saying etc. I don't think it will be conditional!

Government spokesman accuses the media of being-Cartel like

M E Aupiais

Government spokesman or perhaps ruling party or personal of himself spokesman is the question to be asked of Mnyani. Either way, South African media have huffed and puffed about the comments, worried as government tries to close the noose on media Freedom, already precariously on a cliff face in the Republic.






As for Mnyani, he says the media is like a cartel and refuses to answer on Norwegian corruption allegations.


"I ask myself ... Why is the media so hostile to the government" Myani is quoted by Independent Newspapers' political Bureau as telling Talk Radio 702 host John Robbie.


"They all speak the same, they all think the same" he is reported to have said of the three main media houses, saying media needed to be "diversified", a phrase similar to that of "transformed", by which loyal and incidentally black judges have replaced independent white ones in South Africa's post-apartheid judiciary (South Africa rejects the jury system).


Media in the Republic have claimed new regulations allowing government to prevent publication of articles, stories is tantamount to silencing the press. Media have and have always had no special rights or protections in South Africa, and journalists do get sent to jail for protecting sources, if caught, as with lawyers who have no attorney client privilege.


Manyi said that there were 'shocking' cartel-like tendencies at work in the call by SA National Editor's Forum chairperson Mondi Makhanya asking media to work together in light of the latest regulations suggested. Trade Union and Tripartyd Alliance member Cosatu has slammed the regulations as undemocratically penalising whistle blowers. Their close alliance with the ANC has lead to delays in the regulations' release.


Recently the Regulation of the Interception of Communications Amendment Act mandated that all mobile phone conversations' contents be recorded for the state by mobile (or in South African English: Cellular) Operators. This in addition to smses (texts) which companies already kept for five years after customers made them. Also to be kept for the government: all emails made through or in the Republic.


Added to this, and increased funding for the police now under a Zuma loyalist, and the army, the press claim that media freedom itself is at stake.


In South Africa where the ANC has had a massive majority in parliament since 1996, and the Nationalist party had the same setup before, media has often been the only real opposition voice.


Media in South Africa has been accused of a liberal or white bias, despite most journalists being black. This is not unexpected, and the opposing English (liberal, at times: anti-Apartheid) and Afrikaans (conservative, at times: pro-apartheid) views of the past are both at odds with the more Africanist ANC.


BEE, and transformation laws: mandating massive sale of shares to blacks, and hiring of blacks, and support of charities aiding blacks, not whites: something which has lead ANC allies to have massive unfair business success, have yet to cause media to become an ANC ally.


An attempt at an ANC newspaper failed recently. The SABC, the state run broadcaster has been accused since the days of Thabo Mbeki's presidency of giving cabinet ministers unfair time on television, and radio, and of being a propaganda service. SABC heads who don't toe the party line whether related or not, tend to be called to ANC headquarters.


The majority of South Africans get their views via Government radio, and not the barely penetrating three major independent press houses: Naspers, Independent Media, and SAPA!

My greatest weakness

Note by Marc Evan Aupiais

What's my greatest weakness? Accountability!





I need to be honest, ethical, accountable in all I do: or I feel terrible, get sick, and cannot function.

I don't lie! I'm me! Always! Even if it hurts me!

I don't feel embarrassment! Not easily!

What some would hide I put up into print!

If I were mocked or bullied or hurt for telling truth! And there happened to be a camera recording it! And someone in charge of the mocking in authority! I might just save such video to hold them accountable.

Of course I am also discerning! There are actions I should do, to prevent harm to others that I will not do.

And I would not stop someone betraying or letting me down.

I have a need for accountability and to always be real and moral! And ethical!

What I get I must get the right way or I'll probably destroy or throw it out.

Mother told me a story as a child: of how the Allies when they came across the advanced Nazi medical knowledge, destroyed it: it was gained by murder!

It's guided me through life! Ethics! Not just looking good, being good! And gaining what you gain morally and honestly! Without destroying your own human dignity by sin, greed, unethical, immoral acts.

I was always taught "be international", there's always a "bigger pond", be accountable to the Universe and God.

It is this that stops me hating and enables me forgiveness! Though I struggle!

And accountability! This guides me! My name is who I am! I am Marc Evan Aupiais! I do all in my name!

Yes! It is a sin to reveal sins without just cause! But sometimes its a sin not to! Anything I do! I own up to! I face the music, and the muse!

My honesty is my greatest weakness! But its who I am! And I won't deny it! It is my choice! And thus my greatest strength!

The evil youth

Note by M E Aupiais

Its assumed often that youth are depraved! That teenagers etc naturally are!

This wasn't always the case and in many societies isn't!


Teenagers may be depraved if their parents let their desires, every want, or tv or the shocking "teen" books out these days guide them.

But a fruit is of the tree!

A parent who raises an individual gets one. A parent who teaches things, money isn't everything but has importance next to other true gifts, which matter more: friendship, honesty, integrity, conscience, religion, virtues; godliness, God- gets such a child!

A parent who raises a thinking discerning child gains a thinking discerning child.

I am 20 turning 21! I still won't watch 18 movies or 16 for sex!

I also don't drink or smoke!

I credit much of this to my upbringing!

Born and bred!

I was taught to think! Before any other lesson was learnt!

Drug war- why the idiot governments fail

Note by Marc Aupiais

Politicians being the druggie associates they are, in many countries want to stop the drug war.
They say it fails.

I'll tell you why. When those buying have virtual impunity, supply continues.


If you want to stop drugs, have drug testing like alcohol testing and have long sentences- for users!

Not just small fines and done. No wonder you lose. No. Send drug users to jail, confiscate their cars and houses.
One may say- what it they don't seek help then.

Well perhaps create an amnesty for those who do and complete thirty days cold turkey or the like.

Fact is- the reason drug wars fail and lives are lost and the economies damaged- is that drug use only has the penalties of using.

6 months in a rehabilitation centre mandatory or the like, even when clean. And perhaps some hard labour would have a different effect if enforced and publicised!

Sexualization of minors slated by Great Britain

Note by Marc Aupiais

The Tory Coalition government in Great Britain has slated as detrimental the sexualization of children. Rightly identifying a main source, it has attacked music videos.


Another source seemingly left unidentified- lies in the immoral lives of celebrities children are encouraged to emulate. Especially American actors, actresses, and singers.

Particularly those of the ex-Disney brand- a situation caused by American refusal to ban child labour, despite evidence of lost childhoods, drug addiction, and other problems.

Russian Federation bans European Vegetables imports

Note by Marc Aupiais

The Republic's BRICS ally, the Russian Federation, has banned imports of European vegetables over E.Coli. Blaming Cucumber, the Sprouts, EU authorities have yet to find the deadly source of outbreak. Russia has determined to risk good relations with Europe, seemingly in order to insure Russian lives are not lost in diplomacy.

The Republic exports fruits and vegetables to Europe, and any imports from Europe in South Africa on fruits and vegetables are minimal. Our Russian ally, however, imports vegetables from Europe.

DA doing better

Analysis by Marc Aupiais

I obviously voted DA. No question. Most white South Africans did. Most educated South Africans did. The better service and lack of nepotism is enough to attract voting.

Mother got us all to wake early and vote. I'd been planning a day off... But she insisted, so us four went off to vote.

I'm glad I did.

24 % is good. After Us is IFP with like 2 percent, then COPE, and the IFP offshoot.

24 percent, when whites are a minority. That means black votes. That means a lot of black votes.

I joked I wanted to play a Selena Gomez cd to block out the megaphone shouting ANC lies at campus on Monday already. Sadly many South Africans consider voting a duty not a right. That is to say if they register they feel they have no choice who to elect.

Fear and hatred of whites oft still dominates. We the slain beast. Just as Americans rejoice at the slaying of a certain senile arab.

Fear disrupts democratic truths. We are stopped electing who we want and instead vote against who we despise.

So, I voted DA... Because I'm sick... Tired... Of being ripped off for Electricity, unsafe roads, internet, telephone, cellular phone, tv. I'm sick also of a government which canvasses votes on hatred of my tribe- the white tribe- the "Europeans" who our basically illiterate president says are not consistent with a "true South African".

Speaking of which, #1984 who's next on America's hit list. Yemen?

The Third Instinct - By Marc Aupiais

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Sancte Philomena Ora Pro Nobis!

About:

Set in the Greater Johannesburg Area, where the author grew up, this novel discussed South African history, geography, politics, religion, and so much else, in a suspense filled and thriller format. Also entering into the discussion on bio-ethics, murder, death of a friend, suicide, as well as the ethics of espionage and computer hacking, and where patriotism is good, and where it is to the nation's detriment.

The main character Sidney Wolf, as well as other characters, in life and death situations, are forced to choose between what they believe is right and what is most expedient, with varying results.

The novel was written by author Marc Aupiais at the age of 14, before minor edits were made, including footnotes for North American readers, before the author's 21st birthday. It was published first as an ebook, and finally in physical form!

Voting right

Note by Marc Aupiais

As we have a right to vote, we ought certainly vote right. Whether not voting at all, or voting for the right mayor.

Mother convinced me to vote this time. I am not to say for which party. Private as I am. No longer a Democratic Alliance politician at my University, I need no longer say whom I voted for.

Voting encourages transparency. Especially in by-elections when your voice is amplified. So few vote. So many count the consequence.

Both the COPE and ANC have raised the ancestors from the ground, and resurrected God for their campaigns- or so they claim.

The DA has claimed business management and experience and lack of corruption as their manifesto. And added bad dancing to the mix.

What does this all mean?

My electricity bill is so high it affects my ability to buy new gadgets. I am restricted in my number of pets I'm allowed, I think unfairly. Madmen have been forced to the streets so I fear to open my car window.

All this is my fault. Is yours.

For a healthy democracy we must debate, must vote, must raise the real issues and criticise both sides- objectively.

We must educate all on real issues. Not smoke, mirrors and sunlight dish washing liquid.

The DA and ANC's ability to build toilets and walls around them have been a focus.

People march and riot in streets. Police torture, murder.

My phone conversations, yours are all kept on record (RICA Amendment act), as with our e-communication.

Vote. But also talk politics.

Wake up oh sleeper. I certainly have. And I shall vote... Possibly DA as I always have.

Discuss the election. Write about it. Tell your friends on facebook.

You are more connected to your friends and acquaintances than anyone else... Than a distant newspaper writer with bi-focals.

Superman was my hero growing up. Not the guy with the underwear without. Likely not washed ever. And very uncomfortable and unfashionable in a woman's tights.

No- Clark Kent, Louis, his girlfriend. Tell the truth. It will set things right, and let the good out.

But tell it wisely. Look between the smoke and mirrors. God bless you. Now off and vote.

Thoughts on Malema and kill the boer

Note by Marc Aupiais

Malema is treating a part of the population as subhuman for the sake of culture. This is what this opinion article elaborates!

Recently I read of Trigg, Palin's son, who suffers a disability from before birth but after conception. He was mocked, called retarded, treated as predictable and pointless by Democrat supporters of the Culture of Death part of the blog-o-sphere in USA America.

It reminded me of Patrick and Matthew Archbold on abortion: how does one know a society is committing a genocide: be it the National Socialists of Germany or the Nationalists of South Africa, or the Communists and Socialists of Russia...

The answer is simple enough. You create a genocide or partake in one when you treat others as sub or superhuman.

The Islamist is superhuman. The Hun is superhuman.

The curly haired unbeliever/infidel was "subhuman".

And so forth.

When we call human life less than human- when we do away with human dignity that is: we cause it to be endangered and endanger it to the culture of death.

Malema wants to sing/shout at the top of his lungs "Kill the Boer": a phrase uniquely offensive to almost all white South Africans who feel targeted, subhuman. Boarish.

So if Malema can sing this song, for cultural reasons: the old culture of death which erupted in South Africa and conquered both sides for years, then we have danger.

We have super or subhuman whites. And thus super or subhuman blacks.

Isolating a minority race is only the start. The end is hatred. The end is the culture of death.

When speaking of people, we ought take into account their soul, their dignity, their right to be spoken to and of as human beings.

We are all sinful. What sets us apart is goodness!

Remember when... A beautiful prose a friend sent me

Note by Marc Aupiais

Do you remember when ..Your close friends became strangers, lollipops turned into cigarettes, the innocent ones turned into sluts, homework goes in the bin, soda became vodka, kisses turned into sex. Remember when getting high meant swinging on the playground? When protection meant wearing a helmet? When the worst thing you could get from boys/girls were lergies? Dads shoulders were the highest place on earth and mum was your hero? Your worst enemies were your siblings. Race issues were about who ran the fastest, the only drug you knew was calpole, wearing a skirt didnt make you a slut, the only thing that hurt you was skinned knees and goodbyes only meant until tomorrow? And we just couldn't wait to grow up ..Shows you how fast things change and how f----d up things are now-a-days. Pass on if u realise this..

[To which another friend said its why they never grew up!]